AIM Chat with Phil Huling , Mike May .
2:19 PM
Russell Blyth: hi
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Phil Huling: ok
2:20 PM
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Steve Hennagin: QT working great
Costel Ionita: vnc not working
Russell Blyth: vnc not yet up
Costel Ionita: ok
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Daniel Shown: no vnc yet
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Daniel Shown: one second
Russell Blyth: vnc up on new address
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Costel Ionita: vnc good here
Jen Roche: everything looks good here too
Kris Green: what's the new address?
Steve Hennagin: vnc up and running
Russell Blyth: 165.134.13.229:5901
Russell Blyth: MAPLE
Steve Hennagin: pwd is case sensitive
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2:25 PM
Sarah Raynor: Hi, I'm just wondering if Mike's homework worksheet from yesterday ever made it up onto the web? I didn't see it
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Russell Blyth: Tuesday homework?
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Steve Hennagin: neither did I
Russell Blyth: http://euler.slu.edu/GrantWebPages/PREP07Calc3Maple/transcripts.html
Russell Blyth: Instructor Homework
Russell Blyth: start of afternoon session
Russell Blyth: Tuesday
Sarah Raynor: ok thanks
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2:30 PM
Peggy Craft: ready for more!
Steve Hennagin: ready and willing so far
Russell Blyth: anyone not ok with vnc?
2:35 PM
Wasin So: what is basic format?
Peggy Craft: that was way cool...
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Mike May: format of?
Russell Blyth: Wasin, be more specific
Wasin So: basis format
Jen Roche: "BasisFormat" I think he means
Jen Roche: the third line of code
Sarah Raynor: Natacha needs an invite
John Willemain: Dave Mazur needs an invite.
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Sarah Raynor: she says it is still not working
David Mazur: OK, thanks
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Sarah Raynor: thanks!
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2:40 PM
Sarah Raynor: Natacha says she still hasn't gotten an invite
Sarah Raynor: She is following without the chat for now
Daniel Shown: she may have a window covering the invite window
Sarah Raynor: I understand that
Daniel Shown: she may need to minimize some windows to see the invite.
Sarah Raynor: I'm not physically in the same location as her so I can't check what's going on
Jen Roche: what's her im?
Sarah Raynor: fontesnc@westminster.edu
Sarah Raynor: she said she was trying to restart aim
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Sarah Raynor: here she is, yay!
Natacha Fontes-Merz: I'm in! I think
Natacha Fontes-Merz: thank you
Daniel Shown: great!
2:45 PM
Peggy Craft: oh wow
Sarah Raynor: Do you do scalar line integrals as well?
Sarah Raynor: How much time do you spend on visualizing what the line integral means?
Sarah Raynor: Do you find that these maple plots help them with the visualization?
2:50 PM
Peggy Craft: My maple ws is giving error: in lineintegral3d: non-algebaric expressions cannot be differentiated... anyone else?
Richard Wilders: I use work done by a force field as the main example
Richard Wilders: Contra
Sarah Raynor: yeah, me too, but the students complain that there is too much physics
Sarah Raynor: many of our students are econ majors
Steve Hennagin: the print stmts didn't execute in the example
Sarah Raynor: I was wondering if there was another way
Peggy Craft: ah yes... i had to restart maple and tried ot catch up by skipping stuff... i see thta this is going to be an ongoing issue for me :0
Linda Gao: use !!!
Steve Hennagin: OK now, got it to print. I forgot to execute the lines
Peggy Craft: !!! is my new best friend ;->
Peggy Craft: ouch
Steve Hennagin: Mike, you must have a really great final exam!?
Sarah Raynor: I was asking about visualization, but I guess if this is all in the last day, the answer is no
2:55 PM
Steve Hennagin: so, *X* means cross product?
Steve Hennagin: this is for the reader. OK
3:00 PM
Peggy Craft: DO homeowkr, or CHECK homework?
Peggy Craft: gotcha
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3:05 PM
David Mazur: Is there a way to get the same result w/o typing Deg0, Deg1, ..., Deg4? A loop, perhaps?
Russell Blyth: we will get to that. the reason for the names was to be able to put in the legend
David Mazur: OK
Peggy Craft: Thanks for telling us 'f' was for 'float'. i was trying to make it mean "function". Too long since i did fortran 
3:10 PM
Peggy Craft: del = pi/2 looks great!
3:20 PM
Richard Wilders: How did you ceate the arrow menus? Where you click on the arrow to see the whole section?
Richard Wilders: How do you exit a section
Richard Wilders: Yes after a section
3:25 PM
Richard Wilders: I've got to leave not - see you all Thursday
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3:30 PM
Jen Roche: that's clever, I like that
Russell Blyth: but wait ...
Jen Roche: 
Sarah Raynor: that was awesome
Peggy Craft: makes me wish i was teaching mvc next week, not in a few months!
3:35 PM
Linda Gao: use this idea in 1d will be fun too
Sarah Raynor: hint don't increase numpoints too much to try to fix the jaggedness, my maple is still toiling away...
Russell Blyth: Yes, it's easy to overdo it
Peggy Craft: me too - but then I hit the STOP button!
Sarah Raynor: i'm an optimist 
Phil Huling: let it run, get your money out of your computer
Sarah Raynor: oh, it's done now
Russell Blyth: smoother?
Peggy Craft: and was it worth the wait?
Sarah Raynor: way better
Peggy Craft: i'm not finding this worksheet - is it on the program page?
Russell Blyth: yes, now
3:40 PM
Peggy Craft: under wednesday? i refreshed, but no show
Lyndell Kerley: In your discussion of components, did you start with a table and then drop the various component in various rows and columns?
Sarah Raynor: I see it under wed afternoon
Peggy Craft: hmmm.... not showing fo rme. might've lost the nw and so seeing cached page. will try again later.
Sarah Raynor: try clearing your browsing history and reloading to force it not to load the cache
Russell Blyth: The program page is out to Friday now
Russell Blyth: You'll note times set aside for participant projects
Peggy Craft: can you make it use ! instead of expanded factorials?
Sarah Raynor: good question
3:45 PM
Sarah Raynor: I am not even sure where all of these components are coming from
Sarah Raynor: the palette?
Sarah Raynor: Sorry, but what does this have to do with MapleNet?
Sarah Raynor: Or maybe I should say, what is MapleNet?
Lyndell Kerley: I prefer writing procedures, and implement them in the components. That is, keep the number of commands to a minimum.
Russell Blyth: will come back to that
3:50 PM
Sarah Raynor: ah, and with maple net where does it run, on the instructor's local machine?
Russell Blyth: server
Sarah Raynor: a local server set up by one's own university?
Sarah Raynor: ok
Lyndell Kerley: Components are really nice. Maplets are too "tedious" although maplets are prettier.
Sarah Raynor: yes, I agree, the components make a very pretty demo. I was just trying to understand the link with MapleNet. All is clear now, thanks
Peggy Craft: is this also on the program page (just not visible to me  )?
Russell Blyth: right
Steve Hennagin: please slow down
Peggy Craft: yes please!
Steve Hennagin: where are we? how does all this relate to the example, if it all
Phil Huling: We have put the weights on him
3:55 PM
Russell Blyth: this is giving some more background on the whole idea of components
Steve Hennagin: please reboot the last exampple
Russell Blyth: ?
Steve Hennagin: means restart, I'm still lost. Trying to watch too many things and got lost
Peggy Craft: [I use "fred" and "ginger"]
Peggy Craft: starting to look a lot like java...
Steve Hennagin: I got it at last. Thanks for your patience.
4:00 PM
Linda Gao: I need to go now. Thanks a lot for the great lecture and worksheets!
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David Mazur: Thank you both again!
Bret Taylor: Thank you!
Sarah Raynor: ok, thanks and bye
Steve Hennagin: need to do hw also. Thanks again. bye
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Kris Green: Thanks
Peggy Craft: FYI: components worksheets are still not showing up on my program page... but someone sent them to me via aim file transfer!
Russell Blyth: Thanks
Russell Blyth: video off
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Russell Blyth: ok
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Jen Roche: thanks Mike and Russell!
Peggy Craft: bye now
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Russell Blyth: take care, all
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4:05 PM
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