11:51 AM
Russell Blyth: hi, ready to join the chat?
Julianne Rainbolt: hi russell
Nikolaus Vonessen: Hi Everybody!
Michael Engquist: I'm ready. Hello.
Julianne Rainbolt: stand by...
Julianne Rainbolt: vnc address is 165.134.131.96
11:55 AM
Julianne Rainbolt: quicktime address 
isrtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm1.sdp
Russell Blyth: we're up!
Julianne Rainbolt: let us know how you are doing
Nikolaus Vonessen: Everything works fine for me.
Dorothy Zeiser: Everything is fine here.
Michael Engquist: Everything is working.
12:00 PM
Susan Pustejovsky has joined this chat.
Susan Pustejovsky: hi sorry i'm late
Matt Goeke: The vnc address is 165.134.131.96
Nikolaus Vonessen: I tried using GAP in a small graduate class, and it seem 
to work ok, but I am not sure it is worth the time and effort. I would like to hear 
from people who used in in an undergraduate class.
Matt Goeke: quicktime address isrtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm1.sdp
Nikolaus Vonessen: Actually, I was wondering if it is worth the student's time 
and effort.
Dorothy Zeiser: I tried to use it in an undergraduate class. The students had a 
lot of trouble with the line editor and with loading and saving files.
Matt Goeke: Susan are you able to see and hear the video?
Susan Pustejovsky: I'm still working on it.
Nikolaus Vonessen: Can you give us a link for this?
Russell Blyth: hulpke
12:05 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks.
Russell Blyth: susan any problems?
Nikolaus Vonessen: BTW, the video is much better than last year!
Matt Goeke: Susan have you been able to load the video yet?
Susan Pustejovsky: still "attempting to connect"
Dorothy Zeiser: yes
Michael Engquist: My first crack at teaching abstract algebra is spring 2006. 
I'm hoping to do some games and puzzles such as Rubik's cube. any ideas?
Nikolaus Vonessen: I will teach an introductory undergraduate abstract 
algebra class to about 20 students.
Russell Blyth: what about VNC susan
12:10 PM
Julianne Rainbolt: Dorothy, when I get up front again to do the Maple, can 
you send me your latest Maple file through chat?
Dorothy Zeiser: yes
Julianne Rainbolt: great!
Julianne Rainbolt: thanks
12:15 PM
Julianne Rainbolt: welcome Susan
Dorothy Zeiser: These short examples look useful.
12:20 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: When you give students GAP homework (lab) 
assignments, do you let them work in groups?
Julianne Rainbolt: video stopped
Matt Goeke: quicktime address isrtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm2.sdp
Julianne Rainbolt: up again with pm2
Julianne Rainbolt: everyone up?
Dorothy Zeiser: yes
Julianne Rainbolt: Anyone not able to see?
Michael Engquist: No audio here but video okay.
Nikolaus Vonessen: If you look carefully, you sent the wrong link (1 at end, 
not 2).
Matt Goeke: The link for Quicktime changed to quicktime address 
isrtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm2.sdp
Julianne Rainbolt: All OK?
Nikolaus Vonessen: The link does not extend to the "2"; hidden in the link is 
a "1" at the end.
Michael Engquist: I don't have audio.
Susan Pustejovsky: i have no audio either
Julianne Rainbolt: Michael - if no audio, try restarting QT
Julianne Rainbolt: we have audio here
Julianne Rainbolt: quit QT
Julianne Rainbolt: reopen QT
Julianne Rainbolt: reconnect
Julianne Rainbolt: to the URL we gave
12:25 PM
Julianne Rainbolt: Susan, OK?
Matt Goeke: rtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm2.sdp
Nikolaus Vonessen: Audio and video stopped again.
Michael Engquist: I have both video and audio.
Julianne Rainbolt: NV: restart QT
Susan Pustejovsky: okay now
Nikolaus Vonessen: Video now ok.
Julianne Rainbolt: OK - great
12:45 PM
Dorothy Zeiser has left this chat.
Nikolaus Vonessen: GeneratorsOfGroup gives the generators of a group; 
this should make it possible to extend the routine you talked about to groups with 
more than two generators.
Dorothy Zeiser has joined this chat.
Matt Goeke: rtsp://165.135.240.35/050707pm3.sdp
Julianne Rainbolt: we are up on video - any problems?
Michael Engquist: Do students work together in groups (tee hee) to learn 
GAP? I have noticed this phenomenon with Maple. any comments?
Susan Pustejovsky: I've got video but no audio
Nikolaus Vonessen: The link has a typo: "135' instead of "134".
Dorothy Zeiser has left this chat.
Matt Goeke: rtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm3.sdpis the correct address, 
sorry
12:50 PM
Matt Goeke: If you are not getting audio please close and reload quicktime
Dorothy Zeiser has joined this chat.
Michael Engquist: Yes, thanks.
12:55 PM
Michael Engquist: Is Dorothy going to make this worksheet available for 
download?
1:00 PM
Dorothy Zeiser: ok
Russell Blyth: anything to add?
Dorothy Zeiser: no
1:05 PM
Susan Pustejovsky: off to class; thanks
1:10 PM
Dorothy Zeiser: Very nice
Russell Blyth: up on pm4
Russell Blyth: rtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm4.sdp
Julianne Rainbolt: new quicktime 
address:rtsp://165.134.240.35/050707pm4.sdp
Russell Blyth: all OK?
Julianne Rainbolt: any one not back?
Dorothy Zeiser: yes
1:20 PM
Dorothy Zeiser: wow
Julianne Rainbolt: which n-gon shall we do?
Nikolaus Vonessen: n=7
1:25 PM
Dorothy Zeiser has left this chat.
1:30 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: Not at this time.
Dorothy Zeiser went offline before accepting your invitation.
1:35 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks for the meeting today! Bye.
Michael Engquist: Thanks.