PREP - Professional Enhancement Programs of the MAA



 

Exploring Abstract Algebra with Computer Software

A PREP Workshop

AIM log - Friday July 2, 2:30 pm - 4:00 pm

Steve Hennagin: Why did the fireman wear red suspenders?
Nikolaus Vonessen: I had no time for the revised conjecture.
I finished
the Galois correspondence instead. It looks neat!
Russell Blyth: Cool!
Donna Nonnenkamp: why?
Robert Quinn has joined this chat.
Steve Hennagin: To hold up his pants.
Robert Quinn: thanks
Michael Engquist: Any ideas for how to use GAP in linear
algebra--say
Cayley-Hamilton?
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm1.sdp
Donna Nonnenkamp: vnc 165.134.131.41
2:30 PM
Russell Blyth: What is purple and commutes? (quiet, Joanne)
Nikolaus Vonessen: An abelian grape.
Russell Blyth:
Joanne Redden:
Nikolaus Vonessen: What is green and complete?
Russell Blyth: What is yellow and equivalent to the axiom of
choice?
Michael Engquist: Where is your lab manual?
Nikolaus Vonessen: The real line.
Blake Boursaw: Zorn's Lemon?
Russell Blyth:
Steve Hennagin: Great questions
Donna Nonnenkamp:
http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/rainbolt/
manual.html
Donna Nonnenkamp: section 16
2:35 PM
Steve Hennagin: Gaussian primes less than 60 are
[3,7,11,19,23,31,43,47,59], perhaps?
Steve Hennagin: all odd integers are prime, right?
Russell Blyth:
Susan Pustejovsky has joined this chat.
Donna Nonnenkamp: hi
2:40 PM
Susan Pustejovsky: okay, it looks like it worked, thanks
Nikolaus Vonessen: Maybe that's doomed to fail, but I'll try
to teach my
students to work with lists to automate computations such as
these.
Russell Blyth: Yes, once you see the power of List ...
2:45 PM
Maria Fung has joined this chat.
Russell Blyth: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm1.sdp
Russell Blyth: VNC URL unchanged
Russell Blyth: We're in section 16, at the end
Maria Fung: Thanks!
Steve Hennagin: no sound
Nora Strasser: no sound.
2:50 PM
Donna Nonnenkamp: Hold on new batteries
Donna Nonnenkamp: sound back
Steve Hennagin: sound again
Joanne Redden: Sound is back.
Nora Strasser: sound OK
Linda Sundbye: have sound
Steve Hennagin: A_20
Steve Hennagin: a_5, sorry
Russell Blyth: A_20 was OK
2:55 PM
Robert Quinn: Isn't the identity group always normal, why
doesn't every
derived series end in the identity?
Russell Blyth: Since [H,H] can equal H
Russell Blyth: So the series can come to a halt before
reaching 1
Russell Blyth: Juli is saying the quotients need to be
abelian
Robert Quinn: Thanks!
3:00 PM
Russell Blyth: Questions?
3:05 PM
Donna Nonnenkamp: Section 18
3:10 PM
Russell Blyth: add for in exercise 18,4 the phrase: for G a
dihedral
group.
3:15 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: it might be helpful here to suggest a few
(non-
transitive) groups to the students.
3:20 PM
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm2.sdp
Donna Nonnenkamp: new tape give us a minute
Russell Blyth: tapes changing
Russell Blyth: any problems?
Donna Nonnenkamp: we're back
Juli Rainbolt: Ok, we're back - and the conjecture is ...
3:25 PM
Robert Quinn has left this chat.
3:30 PM
Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks for the answers!
Nora Strasser: Do you assign the groups for the students or
do you let
them get into their own groups?
Robert Quinn went offline before accepting your invitation.
Robert Quinn has joined this chat.
Robert Quinn: thx
Donna Nonnenkamp: hi
Janet Mills: thanks
3:35 PM
Nora Strasser: Thanks!
Madeleine Gregoire has left this chat.
Madeleine Gregoire has joined this chat.
Madeleine Gregoire: Back
Nikolaus Vonessen: The listserv refuses to send me the list
of
participants + email addresses. Could you do that?
John Vogt: What sort of prerequisites do you have for your
undergraduate Abstract Algebra class and do they include a
separate
course that introduces students to higher mathematics?
Robert Quinn: You may have mentioned this, but can you
repeat who
maintains the GAP software and how is it funded?
3:40 PM
Steve Hennagin: Meeting next summer sounds good. I will be
using
GAP in Sr Seminar
Steve Hennagin: Also, we require Discrete Math (using
Scheinerman's
book) for ll proof-type classes.
Michael Engquist: Do you have notes or other info for the
logic, etc.
class?
Robert Quinn: thanks
Juli Rainbolt: mt a266
3:45 PM
Juli Rainbolt: greg marks
Nikolaus Vonessen: Are you holding sucha workshop again next
year?
Maria Fung: I teach intro to proofs but do not use any
technology with
it. Thebook I used was Reading, Writing and Proving a Closer
Look at
Higher Mathematics.
Juli Rainbolt: Author(s)?
Michael Engquist: Have any of your students discovered new
results
using GAP?
3:50 PM
Maria Fung: Just a second... „Reading, Writing, and
Proving,‰ Springer
2003, by Ulrich Daepp and Pamela Gorkin.
THANKS for everything!!
Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks to all of you for organizing such
a nice
workshop!
Richard Wagner: thank you
Blake Boursaw: thanks!
Madeleine Gregoire: This workshop has been great. Thanks
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Joanne Redden: Thank you. Happy 4th of July.
Linda Sundbye: Thank you. I enjoyed it.
Dorothy Zeiser: Thanks for an excellent workshop. I'm
looking forward
to using GAP in my algebra class next spring.
Michael Engquist: Thanks
Robert Quinn: Thanks, I've enjoyed this workshop very much.
Janet Mills: This was great. Thanks.
Susan Pustejovsky: thank you; I learned a lot
John Vogt: Many thanks. Enjoyed it.
Steve Hennagin: Thank you for being so good. bye
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Dorothy Zeiser has left this chat.
Madeleine Gregoire has left this chat.
Steve Hennagin has left this chat.
Maria Fung: Happy 4th everyone!! Bye!! Many thanks!!
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This PREP workshop is made possible by the NSF grant DUE: 0341481