
Steve Hennagin: Why did the fireman wear red suspenders? Nikolaus Vonessen: I had no time for the revised conjecture. I finished the Galois correspondence instead. It looks neat! Russell Blyth: Cool! Donna Nonnenkamp: why? Robert Quinn has joined this chat. Steve Hennagin: To hold up his pants. Robert Quinn: thanks Michael Engquist: Any ideas for how to use GAP in linear algebra--say Cayley-Hamilton? Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm1.sdp Donna Nonnenkamp: vnc 165.134.131.41 2:30 PM Russell Blyth: What is purple and commutes? (quiet, Joanne) Nikolaus Vonessen: An abelian grape. Russell Blyth: Joanne Redden: Nikolaus Vonessen: What is green and complete? Russell Blyth: What is yellow and equivalent to the axiom of choice? Michael Engquist: Where is your lab manual? Nikolaus Vonessen: The real line. Blake Boursaw: Zorn's Lemon? Russell Blyth: Steve Hennagin: Great questions Donna Nonnenkamp: http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/rainbolt/ manual.html Donna Nonnenkamp: section 16 2:35 PM Steve Hennagin: Gaussian primes less than 60 are [3,7,11,19,23,31,43,47,59], perhaps? Steve Hennagin: all odd integers are prime, right? Russell Blyth: Susan Pustejovsky has joined this chat. Donna Nonnenkamp: hi 2:40 PM Susan Pustejovsky: okay, it looks like it worked, thanks Nikolaus Vonessen: Maybe that's doomed to fail, but I'll try to teach my students to work with lists to automate computations such as these. Russell Blyth: Yes, once you see the power of List ... 2:45 PM Maria Fung has joined this chat. Russell Blyth: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm1.sdp Russell Blyth: VNC URL unchanged Russell Blyth: We're in section 16, at the end Maria Fung: Thanks! Steve Hennagin: no sound Nora Strasser: no sound. 2:50 PM Donna Nonnenkamp: Hold on new batteries Donna Nonnenkamp: sound back Steve Hennagin: sound again Joanne Redden: Sound is back. Nora Strasser: sound OK Linda Sundbye: have sound Steve Hennagin: A_20 Steve Hennagin: a_5, sorry Russell Blyth: A_20 was OK 2:55 PM Robert Quinn: Isn't the identity group always normal, why doesn't every derived series end in the identity? Russell Blyth: Since [H,H] can equal H Russell Blyth: So the series can come to a halt before reaching 1 Russell Blyth: Juli is saying the quotients need to be abelian Robert Quinn: Thanks! 3:00 PM Russell Blyth: Questions? 3:05 PM Donna Nonnenkamp: Section 18 3:10 PM Russell Blyth: add for in exercise 18,4 the phrase: for G a dihedral group. 3:15 PM Nikolaus Vonessen: it might be helpful here to suggest a few (non- transitive) groups to the students. 3:20 PM Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0702pm2.sdp Donna Nonnenkamp: new tape give us a minute Russell Blyth: tapes changing Russell Blyth: any problems? Donna Nonnenkamp: we're back Juli Rainbolt: Ok, we're back - and the conjecture is ... 3:25 PM Robert Quinn has left this chat. 3:30 PM Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks for the answers! Nora Strasser: Do you assign the groups for the students or do you let them get into their own groups? Robert Quinn went offline before accepting your invitation. Robert Quinn has joined this chat. Robert Quinn: thx Donna Nonnenkamp: hi Janet Mills: thanks 3:35 PM Nora Strasser: Thanks! Madeleine Gregoire has left this chat. Madeleine Gregoire has joined this chat. Madeleine Gregoire: Back Nikolaus Vonessen: The listserv refuses to send me the list of participants + email addresses. Could you do that? John Vogt: What sort of prerequisites do you have for your undergraduate Abstract Algebra class and do they include a separate course that introduces students to higher mathematics? Robert Quinn: You may have mentioned this, but can you repeat who maintains the GAP software and how is it funded? 3:40 PM Steve Hennagin: Meeting next summer sounds good. I will be using GAP in Sr Seminar Steve Hennagin: Also, we require Discrete Math (using Scheinerman's book) for ll proof-type classes. Michael Engquist: Do you have notes or other info for the logic, etc. class? Robert Quinn: thanks Juli Rainbolt: mt a266 3:45 PM Juli Rainbolt: greg marks Nikolaus Vonessen: Are you holding sucha workshop again next year? Maria Fung: I teach intro to proofs but do not use any technology with it. Thebook I used was Reading, Writing and Proving a Closer Look at Higher Mathematics. Juli Rainbolt: Author(s)? Michael Engquist: Have any of your students discovered new results using GAP? 3:50 PM Maria Fung: Just a second... „Reading, Writing, and Proving,‰ Springer 2003, by Ulrich Daepp and Pamela Gorkin. THANKS for everything!! Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks to all of you for organizing such a nice workshop! Richard Wagner: thank you Blake Boursaw: thanks! Madeleine Gregoire: This workshop has been great. Thanks Richard Wagner has left this chat. Blake Boursaw has left this chat. Joanne Redden: Thank you. Happy 4th of July. Linda Sundbye: Thank you. I enjoyed it. Dorothy Zeiser: Thanks for an excellent workshop. I'm looking forward to using GAP in my algebra class next spring. Michael Engquist: Thanks Robert Quinn: Thanks, I've enjoyed this workshop very much. Janet Mills: This was great. Thanks. Susan Pustejovsky: thank you; I learned a lot John Vogt: Many thanks. Enjoyed it. Steve Hennagin: Thank you for being so good. bye Michael Engquist has left this chat. Dorothy Zeiser has left this chat. Madeleine Gregoire has left this chat. Steve Hennagin has left this chat. Maria Fung: Happy 4th everyone!! Bye!! Many thanks!!Back to Home Page
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