PREP - Professional Enhancement Programs of the MAA



 

Exploring Abstract Algebra with Computer Software

A PREP Workshop

AIM log - Wednesday June 30, 10 am - 11:30 am

janetemills: One thing I would ask is that the person who is not at the
main computer speak loudly or have a mike, as I don't hear it, with sound
as high as it will go. Thanks.
nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am1.sdp
nonnymom46: vnc is 165.134.131.41
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SteveHennagin2: hello all! I have QT on windows and vnc on linux
blythrd2: anyone having trouble?
NoStrasser: I can't get either the QT or the VNC to work. I'll keep trying.
MGregoireDHS: I see Julie but I can't hear her.
janetemills: I'm on both.
blythrd2: Any questions while we wait?
nonnymom46: Nora - how are you doing?
NoStrasser: I still can't connect to either.
NoStrasser: Our network is experiencing problems so there may not be a
cure.
nonnymom46: You may need to reboot your computer -
blythrd2: That's not good
nonnymom46: We will reinvite you to the chat
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mengquist2004: You mentioned that GAP has new features for small groups
(more user friendly for non-researchers). Are there other new features like
this you have mentioned>
nonnymom46: after you reboot Nora
blythrd2: Rebooting still may be needed after the network is OK
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nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am1.sdp
nonnymom46: vnc is the same as yesterday 165.134.131.41
SteveHennagin2: Q: When do the leaves begin to turn? A: The night before a
test.
NoStrasser: I just talked to tech and they said that the network is really
slow, but I've got VNC now.
nonnymom46: good
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nonnymom46: Hi Kathy
nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am1.sdp
nonnymom46: vnc is the same as yesterday 165.134.131.41
kcwmanhattan: Thanks.
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Jrainbolt4: conjectures for 7.7?
dzeisermath: auto n*phi(n)
SteveHennagin2: n * totient(n)/4
dzeisermath: homo n+2)^2
MGregoireDHS: homomorphism: 4(n/2+1)^2
SteveHennagin2: Notation: D_n has n elements in gap, you write D_n to mean
2n elements
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SteveHennagin2: totient is another name for phi
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SteveHennagin2: I used n := Size(D_n);
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nonnymom46: Exercise 8.2
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SusanFranka: sorry to be late
blythrd2: Open QT and VNC
nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am1.sdp
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blythrd2: So far a review of the formulas from 7.5 and 7.7
nonnymom46: VNC is the same as yesterday 165.134.131.41
blythrd2: Now looking at section 8 again
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SusanFranka: I'm okay, thanks
nonnymom46: Good
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nonnymom46: Hi
nonnymom46: Is all ok?
blythrd2: Richard and Janet
janetemills: FNC froze. Had to reboot.
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fduwagner: I am ok now. I lost the connection to the chat room.
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blythrd2: Someone lose video?
fduwagner: I have lost sound
blythrd2: Anyone else?
blythrd2: Try closing and reopening QT
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blythrd2: Maria, do you have a setting in AIM that kicks you off if you're
not active at your end for a few minutes?
mggfung: I am not sure... let me see if I can check....
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blythrd2: Donna is looking through Preferences in the File menu to see if
there's a setting to check
blythrd2: Activity does not seem to be the issue
blythrd2: Maybe speed of connection?
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blythrd2: Let me repeat what I entered while you were gone ...
SteveHennagin2: lower all the powers in prime representation of n by 1
nonnymom46: Maria - check file- chat preferences
blythrd2: Donna is looking through Preferences in the File menu to see if
there's a setting to check
blythrd2: Activity does not seem to be the issue
mggfung: Now I was doing things and still got kicked off...
blythrd2: Maybe speed of connection?
nonnymom46: Maria click on sign on/off
blythrd2: :-)
blythrd2: for Steve
SteveHennagin2: THANKS
nonnymom46: Maria - on the right click on connection
nonnymom46: What does is say under host and port Maria?
mggfung: Where?
blythrd2: File: Preferences
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nonnymom46: Maria on the chat room
nonnymom46: under file
Jrainbolt4: Exercise 8.4 is homework
nonnymom46: maria then under file chat preferences
mggfung: I do not have that option under file... only Save Shortcut Print
Close
blythrd2: switching video and tapes
mggfung: Is this an old version and I need the new one?
nonnymom46: NEW URL FOR QT IS
blythrd2: back up with video
Jrainbolt4: Any problems with QT with new URL?
SteveHennagin2: what new URL?
nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am2sdp
Jrainbolt4: am2.sdp instead of am1.sdp
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nonnymom46: am2
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Jrainbolt4: Any video problems?
SteveHennagin2: got it!
jasper2001csr: no problems
Jrainbolt4: Any algebra Qs?
kcwmanhattan: My QT cant find the URL
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Jrainbolt4: Quit QT altogether
mengquist2004: Do you ever ask students to find counterexamples using GAP?
Jrainbolt4: We're stopping the video for a few momentd
Jrainbolt4: moments
Jrainbolt4: evryone quit QT
kcwmanhattan: I quit, then tried again- still not found.
Jrainbolt4: everyone, oops
Jrainbolt4: OK QT is not running yet. So stay quit QT
Jrainbolt4: we are having trouble with QT stand by
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SteveHennagin2: Q: What kind of phone makes music? A: A saxophone.
MathandMozart: My nephew would enjoy that one.
SteveHennagin2: This is my favorite kind of humor. Do you want another?
MathandMozart: Sure.
nonnymom46: WE are stopping quicktime for a few minutes
SteveHennagin2: Q: What happened when an Indian shot at Daniel Boone?
jasper2001csr: don't know
MathandMozart: Don't know.
SteveHennagin2: A: He had an arrow (a narrow) escape.
SteveHennagin2: Q: The alphabet goes from A to Z. What goes from Z to A? A:
a ZEBRA.
nonnymom46: Try to connect to quicktime now
nonnymom46: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am2sdp
nonnymom46: am2
kcwmanhattan: No Good.:-(
MGregoireDHS: I see and hear.
SteveHennagin2: mine is working OK
MathandMozart: I'm connected.
NoStrasser: Can't connect
SusanFranka: ok
jasper2001csr: How far do you nave to count before you find the leter A (
in English)?
janetemills: okay
hypblake: ok here
dzeisermath: ok
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blythrd2: hi
NoStrasser: Mine was working before you shut down, but now its not.
kcwmanhattan: Still cant connect.
nonnymom46: Check the URL rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0630am2.sdp
blythrd2: ANyone esle having trouble - we have 15 connected
nonnymom46: Make sure there is a dot between the 2 and sdp
kcwmanhattan: Got it.
NikolausVonessen: A technical question about AIM: In the chat room window,
how can I get the real names of participants displayed instead of their
screen names?
NoStrasser: still not working and I lost VNC
Jrainbolt4: one thousand
nonnymom46: Nora- you may have to restart your computer
jasper2001csr: yes
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mggfung: I updated the AIM ... see what happens now...
blythrd2: nora - are you ok?
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hypblake: you can also use control n (for next) if you go too far
Jrainbolt4: Any questions?
kcwmanhattan: Yeah- I mised the explanation of the RingHoms output.?
kcwmanhattan: So if I write ringHoms (24) is it testing in Z mod 24?
Jrainbolt4: yes
kcwmanhattan: THanks.
NikolausVonessen: It would probably be useful to output pairs of the form
[i, true/false], and omit the pairs [i, false].
NikolausVonessen: Use Int(e[j]) instead of e[j]
Jrainbolt4: Conjecture?
Jrainbolt4: Any questions?
Jrainbolt4: Any conjectures yet?
kcwmanhattan: Products of Distinct Prime- exponent 1.
Rkquinn03: My sound is in and out, did you state a conjecture for 9.6?
Jrainbolt4: No
NikolausVonessen: And for every prime p dividing n, m must be congruent to
1 modulo p-1.
NikolausVonessen: In addition to n being a product of distinct primes.
Jrainbolt4: What condition needs to be satisfied that gives that solution?
NikolausVonessen: m>1 works if (a) n is a product of distinct primes, and
(b) for every prime p dividing n, m is congruent to 1 modulo p-1.
Jrainbolt4: 9.3?
hypblake: Oh! I suppose you want idempotents?
SteveHennagin2: what is homework?
SteveHennagin2: can you not use a plug-in power pack for microphones?
blythrd2: ?
blythrd2: We don't have AC power supply available for Mic
SusanFranka: bye, see you later, got to go teach
blythrd2: OK - see you later
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jasper2001csr: Have to go to work also. Will be in class this afternoon.
See you tomorrow morning.
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SteveHennagin2: you didn't use PolynomialRing(R);
blythrd2: any Qs
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SteveHennagin2: what does z^2-1 mean
blythrd2: z^2 - 1, not z^(2-1)
SteveHennagin2: will this also work with Integers mod 11 ?
blythrd2: Yes
hypblake: So is it just my GAP that can't factor z^2-1 over the rationals?!
hypblake: or am I doing something wrong?
hypblake: OK, thanks! I was a little worried!
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blythrd2: Any other Qs?
MathandMozart: Why is my GAP writing polynomials as -1 + z instead of z +
1?
NoStrasser: Sorry, I haven't been able to get on till now.
blythrd2: GAP 4.3
MathandMozart: yes. sorry.
blythrd2: vs GAP 4.4
blythrd2: See you at 2:30, or slightly before
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This PREP workshop is made possible by the NSF grant DUE: 0341481