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Exploring Abstract Algebra with Computer Software

A PREP Workshop

AIM log - Tuesday June 29, 10 am - 11:30 am

Donna Nonnenkamp: Good Monring Open Quick time -file open
url in
a new player
9:55 AM
Russell Blyth: Good morning all
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0629am1.sdp
Donna Nonnenkamp: Type in the url -do not click on the link
Donna Nonnenkamp: Then click ok
Donna Nonnenkamp: vnc has the same IP as yesterday
Donna Nonnenkamp: It is 165.134.131.41
Donna Nonnenkamp: no password
Russell Blyth: Any problems?
Russell Blyth: Also, any questions from yesterday?
Janet Mills: Both okay.
Russell Blyth: Good
Kathryn Weld has joined this chat.
Madeleine Gregoire: No problems, no questions.
Russell Blyth: Juli is going to continue today by starting
with Section 4
Russell Blyth: Kathy - need the URLs?
Donna Nonnenkamp: Kathy
Russell Blyth: VNC is the same as yesterday
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0629am1.sdp
Russell Blyth: for QT
Donna Nonnenkamp: vnc is 165.134.131.41 Kathy
Michael Engquist: Do your students ever do more with GAP
than you
assign?
Nikolaus Vonessen: Did I understand it right that we are
supposed/
permitted to modify the handouts for our own classrooms?
10:00 AM
Russell Blyth: What we would like is for yu to take the
materials and
adapt them.
Russell Blyth: We'd like you to share the results with the
whole group
Russell Blyth: After you use them
Nikolaus Vonessen: Then it would be very useful for us to
have the
materials in some original format which would make copying
and
pasting a lot easier.
Susan Pustejovsky has joined this chat.
Susan Pustejovsky: hello
Russell Blyth: hi Susan
Donna Nonnenkamp: Hi Susan
Donna Nonnenkamp: The URL for quicktime is the following
Susan
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0629am1.sdp
Donna Nonnenkamp: Type it in do not click on the link
Nikolaus Vonessen: Thanks.
Donna Nonnenkamp: For VNC the IP is the same as yesterday
165.134.131.41
Janet Mills: How do you get the computer manual? Does it
come with
Gallian's book?
Susan Pustejovsky: I am not hearing Julianne via Quicktime,
is sound
on?
Janet Mills: yes
Russell Blyth:
euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/rainbolt/manual.html
Susan Pustejovsky: sorry, it's working now.
Russell Blyth: We're not talking much yet
Richard Wagner has joined this chat.
Donna Nonnenkamp:
http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/rainbolt/
manual.html
Russell Blyth: hi Richard
10:05 AM
Russell Blyth: Do you need URLs?
Russell Blyth: VNC is the same
Richard Wagner: Good morning
Donna Nonnenkamp: quick time is rtsp://165.134.240.35/
video0629am1.sdp
Maria Fung has joined this chat.
Donna Nonnenkamp: vnc is 165.134.131.41
Russell Blyth: Hi Maria
Russell Blyth: URLs for VNC is the same
Russell Blyth: For QT:
Russell Blyth: Richard, OK?
Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0629am1.sdp
Steve Hennagin: juli's url didn't load: do we need a .edu or
something?
Russell Blyth: You need euler.slu.edu at the front
Richard Wagner: OK so far
Maria Fung: Hi!
Russell Blyth: Maria, all OK?
Russell Blyth: Any other Qs?
Donna Nonnenkamp:
http://euler.slu.edu/Dept/Faculty/rainbolt/
manual.html
Maria Fung: Yes! All working. Sorry I was late...
Russell Blyth: Just about to start after questions
Russell Blyth: We know it's early out west!
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10:10 AM
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10:15 AM
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Donna Nonnenkamp: 4.1 1,41,46,73,81,...,320,360
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10:20 AM
Russell Blyth: Questions?
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10:25 AM
Donna Nonnenkamp: 4.5 Possible Cardinalities - include the
identity
1,13,16,21,25,28,33,
Donna Nonnenkamp: 36,40,45,48,60
10:30 AM
Donna Nonnenkamp: We are going to switch tapes in a minute
Donna Nonnenkamp: You will all have to start quicktime again
- with a
new URL
Russell Blyth: Switching to new URL for QT
Donna Nonnenkamp: IT is the same except am2
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Juli Rainbolt: Any problems with QT?
Juli Rainbolt: Anyone not OK?
10:35 AM
Donna Nonnenkamp went offline before accepting your
invitation.
Kathryn Weld: OK
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Donna Nonnenkamp: rtsp://165.134.240.35/video0629am2.sdp
10:40 AM
Juli Rainbolt: Any guesses for the group G?
Kathryn Weld: I just lost sound
Blake Boursaw: Well, it's simple
Blake Boursaw: So, I guess A5.
Juli Rainbolt: That's a good clue!
Juli Rainbolt: Sound, anyone else?
Donna Nonnenkamp: Kathy - restart quicktime and the sound
should
come back
Kathryn Weld: sound is back
Linda Sundbye: I have sound
Donna Nonnenkamp: good
10:50 AM
Russell Blyth: susan are you there?
Steve Hennagin: try Order(G.1);
Robert Quinn: question: what does <identity ...> mean? after
the cmd
Elements(G)?
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Robert Quinn: ok
10:55 AM
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Susan Pustejovsky: thanks
Russell Blyth: welcome back susan
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Maria Fung: I am off to teach... see you all later!
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11:00 AM
Blake Boursaw: There are 5 groups of order 12.
Steve Hennagin: S3 X Z2 ?
Robert Quinn: A4?
11:05 AM
Kathryn Weld: IsSimple fails
Nikolaus Vonessen: A4 is not simple.
Kathryn Weld: IsIsomorphism produces an Iso...with Alt4
Linda Sundbye: How do I get GAP to read orderFrequency?
Linda Sundbye: (I was in class yesterday afternoon)
Kathryn Weld: Its a black hole. Dont go there.
Linda Sundbye: I have it in bin
Linda Sundbye: directory bin
Blake Boursaw: On my windows machine Read("C:/gap4r4/bin/
orderFrequency.txt); works for example
Robert Quinn: lost sound
Madeleine Gregoire: No sound
11:10 AM
Nikolaus Vonessen: nosound
Linda Sundbye: I got it. Needed .txt extension
Nora Strasser: no Sound
Steve Hennagin: no sound
Russell Blyth: changing batteries
Russell Blyth: should be back now
Donna Nonnenkamp: You should hear us now
Susan Pustejovsky: yes
Joanne Redden: yes
Robert Quinn: yes
Dorothy Zeiser: yes
Steve Hennagin: good
Kathryn Weld: I still cant get order frequency, which is in
C:
\gap4r4\bin. I have tried using the txt extension, and not
doing so.
Donna Nonnenkamp: "C:/gap4r4/bin/orderFrequency.txt
Donna Nonnenkamp: forward slashes
11:15 AM
Kathryn Weld: Got it- thanks. I wondered why we were using
the other
slashes...
Russell Blyth: good news kathy
Kathryn Weld: Lost sound
Blake Boursaw: I have sound..
Russell Blyth: kathy - sound ok?
Kathryn Weld: Seems to have been because of Gap eating my
machines
memory. But I'm back
11:20 AM
Juli Rainbolt: Questions?
Russell Blyth: homework: Exercise 6.2
Russell Blyth: and exercise 5.4
Steve Hennagin: What does IsPermGroup do internally?
11:25 AM
Richard Wagner: Sound is gone
11:30 AM
Michael Engquist: If you have the GAP source code, can you
use it in
your own C program?
Russell Blyth: that is a question for the authors of the
software GAP
Steve Hennagin: good enough, thanks
Juli Rainbolt: Bye
Joanne Redden: See you this afternoon.
Susan Pustejovsky: bye
Nikolaus Vonessen: Bye.
Nora Strasser: bye
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Blake Boursaw: bye
Linda Sundbye: bye
Madeleine Gregoire: bye
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Dorothy Zeiser: bye
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Steve Hennagin: I was hoping for something more generic
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Russell Blyth: i will show you something more generic this
afternoon
steve
Russell Blyth: i will show you how to look up source code at
the
beginning of the afternoon session


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This PREP workshop is made possible by the NSF grant DUE: 0341481