
Donna Nonnenkamp: VNC is 165.134.131.27 and to connect to video rtsp://165.134.240.33/video0718a.sdp and to connect to audio rtsp://165.134.240.33/audio0718a.sdp Dominic Soda: how do you get those cute little balloons? Donna Nonnenkamp: remember to type into quicktime Math and Computer Science: she is using iChat Math and Computer Science: a chat app for Mac OS X Robert Talbert went offline before accepting your invitation. brooksbankpa: how exciting! Donna Nonnenkamp: Can you hear the thunder? sklarjk has joined this chat. Carter Lyons has joined this chat. Ken Yanosko: Yes, I hear it. If you suddenly disappear, we'll know why! 10:00AM Donna Nonnenkamp: Hope not! Meral Arnavut has joined this chat. Dominic Soda: It is very dark and much lighting here just 20 miles west of you Ronald Biggers has joined this chat. janetlbeery has joined this chat. Carter Lyons: What about that A? 10:05AM Ken Yanosko: The A in AUGUST Donna Nonnenkamp: Was there a typo? Carter Lyons: There were two or more bits of error. Tracy Hamilton: I don't think there was a typo--I got it to work--only one error. Ken Yanosko: Yes, but it seems to involve some trial and error. Ken Yanosko: Getting the A, I mean. Tracy Hamilton: You have to choose alpha carefully to make sure you choose a generator. brooksbankpa: Thanks for the mail Jim; this will certainly be useful. Ken Yanosko: Ah, I see, Tracy. That will do it. Tracy Hamilton: Glad to help, Ken. 10:15AM drvazz: anyone else lose video? sklarjk: I did. Tracy Hamilton: yes brooksbankpa: I did Tracy Hamilton: and audio Carter Lyons: lost audio drvazz: right, both Meral Arnavut: I lost video and VNC. janetlbeery: yes, both Tong Wu: Both brooksbankpa: Must be the storm? Tracy Hamilton: vnc gone Donna Nonnenkamp has left this chat. sklarjk: My video is back. Ken Yanosko: A/V is on but breaking up badly. VNC died. Meral Arnavut: Video is back. janetlbeery: yes, both back drvazz: back on now here, too Tracy Hamilton: back up sklarjk: It's all good here. Tong Wu: video is back brooksbankpa: audio and video back now Dominic Soda: video good Math and Computer Science: checking Ken Yanosko: VNC back. brooksbankpa: vnc died but back now Meral Arnavut: VNC back. Dominic Soda: vnc good Carter Lyons: Lost VNC, both VNC and quick time are back for me. Math and Computer Science: every thing should be back now - power surge? Ken Yanosko: ok now Robert Talbert went offline before accepting your invitation. Tong Wu: Ok here Dominic Soda: What is NF? Donna Nonnenkamp has joined this chat. Donna Nonnenkamp: hi 10:20AM Carter Lyons: I am confused about the notation. In CF(n) n is the degree of the cyclotomic extension. In Pi_n n is the nth cyclotomic polynomial. Is this correct? 10:25AM Carter Lyons: Oops. Phi_n. Carter Lyons: Okay. Dominic Soda: Does gap "factor" finite abelian groups; 10:30AM Dominic Soda: yes as a direct product Janet McShane: Could you do that please? Construct the group Z2xZ16 and then compare. 10:35AM Janet McShane: Thank you! Janet McShane: That was a good review. Dominic Soda: The [1,4] of NF(5,[1,4]) is the GaloisStabilizer of the NF Dominic Soda: I used Known Attributes etc... brooksbankpa: It describes the primitive element of the field 10:40AM brooksbankpa: E(15)+E(15)^2+E(15)^4+E(15)^8 for example brooksbankpa: for [1,2,4,8] Tracy Hamilton: you cubed e3 not e2 10:45AM brooksbankpa: Are we trying to get all of the subgroups? 10:50AM brooksbankpa: LatticeSubgroups can be used but, as you say, it's worth mucking around with. Robert Talbert went offline before accepting your invitation. 10:55AM Donna Nonnenkamp: switching tapes Donna Nonnenkamp: tape is installed 11:00AM Janet McShane: Did you say earlier that we need to find 14 subgroups? brooksbankpa: It would be a nice exercise to have the students actually sketch the subgroup and subfield lattices and compare their structure. GAP makes this quite easy (once we've figured out the NF notation anyway!) 11:05AM Dominic Soda: > GaloisStabilizer( )For an abelian number field , `GaloisStabilizer' rall integers $k$ in the range from $1$ to the conductorthe field automorphism induced by raising roots of un$k$-th power acts trivially on . Dominic Soda: The mapping sigma->sigma^k fix the associated NF in CF where sigma is the generator of CF I think. 11:10AM Tong Wu has left this chat. Tong Wu has declined the invitation to this chat. Tong Wu has joined this chat. Dominic Soda: There are 27 if we "mind the GAP" 11:15AM Math and Computer Science: yes - we are trying to find the 25 non proper ones Janet McShane: Are your 12 and 15 the same? Math and Computer Science: (we know by the previous exercise there are 27 subfields of CF(60) so there must be 27 subgroups Janet McShane: Okay --- it's just hard to read the board. Thanks. Math and Computer Science: when we get the whole list we will do a close up of the board. 11:20AM Donna Nonnenkamp: Tom is going to zoom in on the board 11:25AM Ken Yanosko: Since the group is abelian, ConjugacyClassesSubgroups(g) lists all the subgroups. Can we then get GAP to list the elements of these subgroups? 11:30AM Ken Yanosko: Those are your 27 subgroups, in terms of generators. Carter Lyons: The resolution is not fine enoughon my machine. Math and Computer Science: I can send a print out of the subgroups electronically if you would like - just send me an email requesting it. Tracy Hamilton: Juli, can you post it to the website? 11:35AM Math and Computer Science: o.k. Tracy Hamilton: thanks Math and Computer Science: it will probably not be there until monday thought Tracy Hamilton: that's fine Tracy Hamilton: i knew what you meant Carter Lyons: I will get it off of the website next week. Ronald Biggers has left this chat. sklarjk: Bye! Carter Lyons has left this chat. Meral Arnavut has left this chat. Ken Yanosko has left this chat. sklarjk has left this chat. janetlbeery: I'm going to e-mail you some questions about classroom practice right now, for possible use in the afternoon session. drvazz has left this chat. Donna Nonnenkamp: Thanks Janet-that is great Tracy Hamilton has left this chat. Jim Woeppel has left this chat. Math and Computer Science: send it to either rblythrd@slu.edu or rainbolt@slu.edu Math and Computer Science: or better yet to both Math and Computer Science: correction: blythrd@slu.edu janetlbeery: I was going to send them to everyone! Math and Computer Science: even betterBack to Home Page
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